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Swynndla
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #60 on: Apr 22nd, 2006, 5:03pm » |
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on Apr 22nd, 2006, 3:34pm, Fritzlein wrote:
I don't think it would be very fair to change the rule after all the effort that people have put into beating bot_Bomb2005CC with three steps. |
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I tend to agree.
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Arimanator
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #61 on: Apr 22nd, 2006, 5:06pm » |
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on Apr 22nd, 2006, 3:30pm, Fritzlein wrote:
Arimaanator, please separate me from the things that I say. I don't mind if you disagree with the things I post here. I don't mind if you say that I am being inconsistent. I can even tolerate it if you say that my ideas are inane.
However, when you imply that something is wrong with me that is a personal attack. You have made a comment about me, rather than a comment about my ideas.
Do you accept this distinction? It is a very important distinction to me. I respect you as an individual. I don't post personal comments about you, even when I strongly disagree with what you say. Are you willing to respect me as well? In particular, are you willing to disagree with me (when we disagree) without saying anything personal about me?
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I apologize if my remark did look like a personal attack against you. It wasn't. I was upset by what you said which seemed so outlandish considering that when last year I complained about "stolen moves" no one backed me up. Now you say that a "concept" not moves but a "CONCEPT" belongs to the first one to use it successfully. That really got my goat! It really wasn't you but what you said and also a reminder of how we treated these things in the past.
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Arimanator
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #62 on: Apr 22nd, 2006, 5:11pm » |
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Bomb2005CC in 66 moves with gold game 29481 by immobilization.
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Fritzlein
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #63 on: Apr 22nd, 2006, 6:19pm » |
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on Apr 22nd, 2006, 5:06pm, Arimanator wrote:| I apologize if my remark did look like a personal attack against you. It wasn't. |
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OK, I'm glad that you can see how it would look like a personal attack, and I'm glad you didn't intend anything personal in the remark.
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Swynndla
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #64 on: Apr 22nd, 2006, 6:54pm » |
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Well done Arimanator for the 66 move win ... I'll have to try and beat that now 
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Swynndla
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #65 on: Apr 23rd, 2006, 12:09am » |
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bot_Bomb2005CC
Game 29515
51 moves as gold.
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #66 on: Apr 23rd, 2006, 12:56am » |
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Congratulations, but the competition is not over. I say 45 is an attainable goal. We have till the end of this month. Right?
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Swynndla
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #67 on: Apr 23rd, 2006, 1:38am » |
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Yup ... the end of the month.
I think I could do it in 49 moves if I played 100 games, but I dunno if I could do it in 45!
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IdahoEv
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #68 on: Apr 23rd, 2006, 10:36am » |
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Since the opinions are unanimous, the competition continues with rules unchanged! We'll do a separate two-step competition at another time.
(Note to those who were offended by the idea: I was merely offering an option to you gents in case slogging against BombCC for a week would be too monotonous. I know that the CC bots are legendary for consuming countless hours of player time.)
I do think it would be interesting to see how well 3-step techniques work against the bots other than Bomb, however. If I could afford to offer additional prizes for each of the other bots, I would. It may turn out that some are less forgiving of 3-step tactics than others.
But consider it a separate sub challenge - see how well you can do vs. Gnobby, Loc, Clueless, Aamira, and Arimazilla, if you have interest. I will keep the best score for each bot enshrined on the contest page, and will transfer records to the Arimaa wiki as well when we move on to the next contest.
Enjoy! In the meantime, I'll work on defeating Bomb with four steps...
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Swynndla
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #69 on: Apr 23rd, 2006, 11:07pm » |
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So Evan, do you want to put my 51 move win (above) on the list of Current Best (while it still is ... as I think it'll be beaten soon)?
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IdahoEv
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #70 on: Apr 24th, 2006, 12:34am » |
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on Apr 23rd, 2006, 11:07pm, Swynndla wrote:| So Evan, do you want to put my 51 move win (above) on the list of Current Best (while it still is ... as I think it'll be beaten soon)? |
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Done. I think I missed it in my first scan of the huge number of posts you guys wrote on Saturday.
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Swynndla
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #71 on: Apr 24th, 2006, 2:15am » |
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bot_Bomb2005CC
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46 moves as gold 
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #72 on: Apr 24th, 2006, 2:37am » |
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Nathan, do you sleep or eat ever?
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Arimanator
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #73 on: Apr 24th, 2006, 2:48am » |
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Congratulations! I may give it another try using Ryan's punched through rabbit technique which seems to make it possible in less than 40 moves but I am not sure it's feasible. It seems that at one moment or another one needs a 4-step move to pull that off. But as anyone here who’s been around for a while knows. With Arimaa everything is possible. I any case you are a worthy opponent and there is no shame in losing against you in that contest.
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Arimanator
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Re: BotBasher Challenge - April 2006
« Reply #74 on: Apr 24th, 2006, 2:52am » |
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By the way, what is the current time in New Zealand? is it earlier or later than France? Just curious.
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